I made this quick video to show how this motor reacts with these props, its a great combo for the quick bleep of the throttle type flying, it has loads of power and on a 1300 4s I can manage 2 mins, My mb epic 229 in this video weighs about 590 AUW, Im rocking betafligtht 3.1.7 PT1 filter , running the spedix hv 30 amp esc, If you havent tried the cyclones give them A shot, I carry them in my store.